Patience_Coin : what do you think

10baggerbamm OP : I can't see the upside and I'm not pessimistic I'm very realistic last quarter Lisa downgraded the sales of gpus for data centers by 7%. that was pretty Trump that was pretty tariff now you have China an outright band technically they'll say it's not a band you just need a license and Howard lutnik is not issuing any licenses so it's a band you've got personal computer laptops everything that AMD chips are in walk into Best buy all that nails subjected to tariff pricing it's not made in the US so volume sales are going to drop and Hewlett-Packard gave a cautionary warning for the first half of this year and same with Dell they did the exact same thing they gave cautionary guidance and that was last quarter that clothes for them that's after Trump was in office so how can AMD issue positive guidance and upbeat guidance when China is shut off they took an 800 million charge their margins are already under pressure last quarter and the quarter before their gaming is a disappointment last quarter where's the upside I mean this is the long shot horse in the Kentucky Derby that's limping going to the gates that's the only way I can put it do you want to bet on that horse?

72670956 : little miss lisa may pull it off

10baggerbamm OP 72670956 : I'll say this I hope I am wrong I want AMD to do well because I own a leverage etfsoxl that has it in it and the reality is the growth is in technology stocks be upside is technology stocks it's not owning Walmart it's not owning Verizon I own both by the way but that's not where your growth is it's not a matter of home Depot or Lowe's adopting robots for stocking on shelves which increases their efficiency it's the companies that build it's the company's that manufacture the gpus for the robots that's your upside so I want to be wrong I want AMD to Gap up $10 tomorrow nothing would please me more